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Oh, good lord, don't even get me started on this one. If you listen to the media, they'll have you believing that 80% Arabs report to a tribal camel-riding sheik from some sort of 20's silent film and the other 20% worship Lionel Richie and live at the mall, that all Afghans live in caves, that all Persians burn American flags for fun, and that all Egyptians are religious whack jobs. And, really it was like that before the wars, too, though the flavor the week aspect was slightly different in the 80's.

GAH.

I swear, it's like most people think that Iraq is comprised of a handful of buildings in Baghdad and a lot of sand, and that's it. Like the war can't possibly be that bad because we're just bombing dirt, right? And, I've heard similar comments about Iran... and I just cannot wrap my head around the basic ignorance of it all.

I think you hit a pet subject of mine. Guess I needed to rant.

Walls coming up...over and over again. Here, there, everywhere. On the inside, on the outside...they are always to stave off an impossible tide. They are always to bolster the conquering lie.

I hope she finds somewhere to go. It's possible she could apply to come here; the U.S. is working to make more spaces for Iraqi refugees to settle here because Jordan and Syria are overtaxed, and it's definitely not safe to try living near the borders. There's humanitarian aid there, but...yeah.

Of all the efforts to actually help people survive in Iraq, the U.S. puts resources that could be rebuilding homes, safeguarding businesses, and leaning towards ceasing occupation into building a fucking wall. Are they trying to keep the violence outside or keep the insanity inside of it?

Sylvia, well I can't imagine that Riverbend has any desire to move to the country that's responsible for destroying her homeland and killing hundreds of thousands of her people. She's not going to end up in a border refugee camp, remember her family is well-to-do and probably connected to relatives in other countries in the region. I'm sure they have the wherewithal and knowledge to make the best possible decisions.

Veronica, yeah it's a pet peeve of mine too, the constant mischaracterization of the Middle East and indeed the entire non-Western world with a seemingly subtle but powerfully pervasive white supremacist civilizational narrative. So rant away.

Nezua, indeed. Pink Floyd was onto something.

Choosing to move from Jordan or Syria to America is an option, not a mandate or a cure-all. And with the conditions America is imposing on Iraqis who apply for visas to get out of the conflict, perhaps it's not a first resort -- or even a great last resort. But it's an option. It's not necessarily an issue of desire.

Also, I understand that Riverbend and her family are well-to-do, and they will make the best provisions for themselves. I also understand that since they're voluntarily leaving for their safety, they have significantly broader options than an ordinary refugee. But at the same time, while I do wish the best and safest escape for her and her family, that's not a universal safeguard against meeting up with some of the conditions other refugees are facing in this conflict.

My comments do sound fatalistic, and I apologize for that. But I didn't bring up what I did in any attempt to undermine whatever decisions Riverbend and her family makes and are making, or to suggest they couldn't make those decisions. Perhaps I should have restricted my comment to what's there about the wall.

She probably couldn't come to the U.S. anyway, democracy now just reported that the u.s. is only letting in like 88 people from Iraq a year or something horrible like that--wheras they're letting in hundreds of thousands of cubans and iranians.

I disagree, tho, that she wouldn't want to come to the U.S. because of our invasion--Mexicans don't like the US much, but we come here anyway. There's a lot of benefits to being in the u.s. that has nothing to do with traditional understandings of why the u.s. is "good"---nobody invades the u.s. is generally a nice benefit. and if you have family that moved here before any invasion began, you're going to move here simply because you won't be all alone. For example, I've known many mexicans that walk right through the U.S. to get to canada. sure the U.s. is closer, but they have family in canada. And if they have business contacts in the u.s., that might be another reason to come here--just because they can get help getting started here.

starting life in a whole new place with no family, no friends, no clues as to how the culture works--that's not fun and it's not easy. You tend to forget things like a *government* attacking your country when you're scared and alone and maybe can't speak the language to well and *family* can help you.

She probably couldn't come to the U.S. anyway, democracy now just reported that the u.s. is only letting in like 88 people from Iraq a year or something horrible like that--wheras they're letting in hundreds of thousands of cubans and iranians.

I disagree, tho, that she wouldn't want to come to the U.S. because of our invasion--Mexicans don't like the US much, but we come here anyway. There's a lot of benefits to being in the u.s. that has nothing to do with traditional understandings of why the u.s. is "good"---nobody invades the u.s. is generally a nice benefit. and if you have family that moved here before any invasion began, you're going to move here simply because you won't be all alone. For example, I've known many mexicans that walk right through the U.S. to get to canada. sure the U.s. is closer, but they have family in canada. And if they have business contacts in the u.s., that might be another reason to come here--just because they can get help getting started here.

starting life in a whole new place with no family, no friends, no clues as to how the culture works--that's not fun and it's not easy. You tend to forget things like a *government* attacking your country when you're scared and alone and maybe can't speak the language to well and *family* can help you.

damn, sorry about the double post

Sylvia, yeah, good points, esp. about the limited role that desire sometimes plays in such decisions. BFP, good points also and thanks for the Democracy Now news, that certainly limits options. Hehe, sorry I can't add much just now as I'm on the road, but just wanted to acknowledge your great comments!

Cheers.

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Your writing is wonderful (love the China photos,too), and I shall return!

The tribalism issues, along with the religious issues that are affecting iraq (and to a smaller extent the region) boil down roughly to power issues - who gets control of what, and wether that control aligns to the personal beliefs of those in power.

Yes, it is wrong to say that iraq is a seething mass of tribal fighting, but the three main groups (kurds, sunnis and shias) are 'tribes' - groups of people with common interests who have common enemies. In this case I believe the underlying issues are dominated by who gets control of the oil, but the groups are aligning along 'ancient tribal rivalry' lines.

The thing about tribal rivalry is that in the good times, they tend to disappear - in an period of prosperity, most people tend to ignore the past if it will bring up unpleasantness. The problem occurs when there are major societal upheavals, and then people look to those they have most in common with (same family, which means same tribe) to attach to in order to fight for what they can get.

Most iraqis are trying to get on with their lives, but they're just not able to with the violence going on exacerbated by these tribal groupings.

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