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great analysis, though i would say that it isn't so much that the Clinton camp has remained loyal to Asian American voters after the fundraising scandals so much as it's the other way around - despite public snubs of various AAPI groups, AAPIs have remained loyal to Clinton.

I hope things will change eventually, though...

wow....very insightful and important news. damn.

in general, asian americans really need more press and more attention for their contributions in so many ways here. i've realized this in my own arc.

This is great stuff Kai,

When I was out on the streets here in Massachusetts on Super Tuesday, I expected so much more energy from what was supposed to be a hotly contested election. There wasn't though. People were hard to find.

It really is this unglamorous get out the vote work that is so key, especially in local elections, the only place that U.S. democracy still works. Boston Chinatown has an excellent machinery for churning out those votes and unless you tap into that, the rhetoric isn't going to cut it.

At the same time I think this is still a product of Clinton being the establishment candidate and all of the POC free votes Dems get.

Either way, I love your analysis and the info's really good. This is certainly going on my del.icio.us account.

Gar, Nez, Kyle, thanks for your comments, glad it rings true! Yeah, the importance of the on-the-ground political apparatus really can't be overstated, and Clinton has a huge headstart there. Let's hope that the Obama campaign is double-timing it now on that front.

Hey Kai. Just wanted to let you know I also posted my thoughts on this:

http://www.reappropriate.com/?p=1053

Thanks, Jenn!

Great post, Kai. Hope you have a good weekend.

Thanks, Joan, you too! Cheers!

What a great read. Thanks for putting this information out there. And hey, how 'bout that Giuliani campaign?

Carmen D, thanks for the good word. Ya gotta love that Giuliani campaign, right? That really worked out for him, didn't it! ;-)

The "on the ground" infrastructure is unquestionably required. I also wonder if Obama's central theme of change might be better framed on the dimensions of unification and "getting things done" as part of communication "on the ground" in Asian American communities.

Here is a quote by Taeku Lee, AP at Cal that I found at The America Scene.

“Running on change is risky,” he explains. “It’s not the best way to sell your candidacy in some immigrant communities. Many people who just came to this country or who feel unsettled are looking to have their anxieties alleviated, looking for a sense of stability.” When I spoke with an aide to a California congressman whose district includes a large East Asian population, he agreed with the assessment. “Many of our voters think his pitch is too radical. They are ‘New Democrats’ for a reason.”

Here is the entire post. http://theamericanscene.com/2008/02/09/asian-americans-and-obama
http://www.polisci.berkeley.edu/faculty/bio/permanent/Lee,T/

All this still points at the fact that the Obama campaign has to do hard, yet refined work to reach and get votes from Asian American communities around the country.

peace,

v

Calculated organization or not (building good relationships with Asian and Latino community is not all bad!), look what she's already done for APIAs as posted on my blog:

In the Senate, Hillary has championed numerous initiatives to improve the lives of AAPIs, their families and communities. Last year Hillary introduced legislation that would reunite families who have been separated by the immigration system. In addition, she sponsored the Legal Immigrant Children’s Health Improvement Act to restore access to Medicaid and SCHIP benefits for legal immigrant pregnant women and children and introduced the Access to Employment and English Language Acquisition Act to provide more job training funds for individuals with limited English language skills. As president, Hillary Clinton will promote an agenda that provides the opportunity, support and tools that AAPIs need to realize the American dream and address the challenges facing the community, including discrimination, language barriers, and poor access to affordable health care.

Perhaps it's some of his foreign policy stances? The majority of Asian Americans are probably East Asian, but his comments on bombing Pakistan made some South Asians uneasy. The letter condoning the Israeli blockade and pledging to continue supplying arms in the future is also a cause for concern among some Arabs (West Asian Americans? I still don't know how the category really works).

http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/3067.cfm


Not that HRC's are any better. Hmm...I don't know. I know that my mom isn't supporting Obama for a really random reason - she apparently heard on Oprah that he has Parkinson's disease and think it will affect his judgement. My dad supports HRC because of the whole "experience" thing, I think.

Hey Kai,

I think that your post significantly understates the level of nitty-gritty, political organization of the Obama campaign. Although It is likely that they are not as heavily organized in turning out Asian-American voters as the Clinton campaign, the Obama campaign is far more than big-stage, razzle-dazzle. They generally out-perform the opinion polls by generating high turnout, something that is especially evident in caucus states where turnout is key.

In the past, I have worked with one of the key organizers in the Obama campaign, someone who helped lead the ground effort in Iowa and South Carolina. Decades of experience working in campaigns. These people know what they are doing when it comes to getting out the vote on election day.

That said, I find it disappointing that Obama has had very little Asian-American representation on his staff, and it does seem clear that Clinton has spent more time forming a campaign message targeted to Asian-Americans. These two facts are likely related to each other.

I tend to agree with Taeku Lee quoted by Vincent above. More than street-level organization, a large part of the vote disparity in favor of Clinton has to do with how immigrant communities react to an establishment candidate versus a movement candidate. This is true not just among Asian-Americans but also among *recently-emigrated* Latinos. I emphasize that because too much analysis treats these groups as monolithic. Obama did very well in New Mexico, for example, where the Latino population has much higher percentage of people who have been there for generations than does California.

One last thought, which I put forward here because this blog often poses uncomfortable questions about race, but one factor that lurks in the background here is the race of the two candidates. Most of the focus in this election centers on prejudice on the part of white voters against a black candidate, but we cannot ignore the possibility that there exists still higher levels of prejudice against blacks in communities of recent immigrants. It may be an important factor, or not one at all, but it merits a close look.

Peace.

Just noticed on other thing. Tracing back the links, the original chart comes not from last November but from last June, so there has been a lot of time for the picture to change.

Whoops, I just took a second look at the chart and realized that I skimmed it too quickly the first time. I was responding to the question some people on the net had about why there were less Asian American voters. Well, the chart is one reason why.

"To some extent, I see 80-20 as a conservative power-brokering outfit run by an older generation of elitist Asian American community leaders who are utterly unhip and out of touch"

So True!!! 80-20 is always talking about federal judge and corporate board member positions for Asian Americans. Not all Asians are lawyers or executives. 80-20 always like throw around big IV League school names as qualification for their staff. Very elitist group and out of touch with average Asian American.

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